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| solid gold
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Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 1:43 pm Post subject: Team Diplomacy, ATTACK! |
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ok, it's time to make some noise about the police wasting their time and our tax money harrassing bicyclists. here's what we need: we need people to write letters/make calls to the Mayor, the City Councilors, the Oregonian, the Willamette Week, the Mercury, and PDOT.
to summarize what happened the last two sunday nights, there were 8-10 police officers setting up stings at stop signs throughout the West Hills on deserted roads waiting for bicyclists to not make a complete stop. i am starting a letter writing/phone calling campaign to make this an issue until this nonsense stops. let's take the fight to them, we have to act, not just re-act.
our talking points should stick to these major issues.
1. setting up stings to catch bike riders at a stop sign on a deserted road, on a sunday night, in portland's wealthiest neighborhood is A WASTE OF TAX PAYER MONEY AND A WASTE OF POLICE RESOURCES.
2. There are dangerous and violent crimes being committed and police resources are being wasted on non-violent traffic violations by bicyclists. further, there are high crime neighborhoods where police presence is desperately needed, like outer Southeast Portland, North Portland, and Old Town.
3. People are allowed to drive 64mph in a 55mph zone. this is illegal, yet police turn a blind eye because it is A COMMON PRACTICE, AND FAIRLY SAFE, LIKE BICYCLISTS TREATING STOP SIGNS AS A YIELD SIGN. (this is an important distinction. no one will support bikers ignoring stop signs, but they will support bikers treating stop signs as "yield" signs)
4. don't treat this as an issue of police harrassement, treat this as an issue of police wasting tax payer money and police resources. everyone can relate to that.
5. you don't have to mention zoobomb. keep in mind that many "normal" people think we suck. but even they hate wasting tax money and police resources.
6. use proper english (including capitalization, hehe). if you can't write like a smarty pants, maybe you should sit this one out. don't use slang, try not to make it a rant, etc. remember, your audience is middle class america.
ok, here's the email list. the best way is to send an individual email to each person. if you want, i can post a form letter, but it would be better for you to make a unique letter.
sam adams : commissionersam@ci.portland.or.us
his phone number (503)823-3008
his transportation direct roland chlapowski: rchlapowski@ci.portland.or.us
the mayor : his online contact form is http://www.portlandonline.com/mayor/index.cfm?c=36628
his phone number is (503)823-4120
commissioner dan saltzman : dsaltzman@ci.portland.or.us
his phone number (503)823-4151
commissioner randy leonard: randy@ci.portland.or.us
his phone number (503)823-4682
commissioner erik sten: erik@ci.portland.or.us
his number (503)823-3589
city auditor blackmer: gblackmer@ci.portland.or.us
the oregonian letters section: letters@news.oregonian.com
the Willamtte Week news: njaquiss@wweek.com
the mercury news: lovenotes@portlandmercury.com
if you have any questions/ideas you don't want to post here, contact me in person or better at
solidgoldcycles at hotmail dot com
you'd be surprised at what squeeky wheels can accomplish. go TEAM DIPLOMACY! _________________ Pull your own weight in '08. |
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| joshuadallman
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Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 2:05 pm Post subject: |
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great tactics, well thought out, I like every word
this should be on the to do list of EVERY bomber
I'm getting on it myself right away, last week's ambushes were BULLSHIT
but shouldn't this be part of team blackout?
we're telling them our strategy here publically instead of through private email
(not hatin', just sayin')
in any case thanks for organizing the contact info's |
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| SkidMark
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Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 2:12 pm Post subject: |
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There are also the "stings" in Ladd's Addition, and at the entrance to the Springwater Corridor. And the ever present danger of fixed gear death machines being harassed downtown by the Barnum and Balzer Circus. One could say that the increased presence at Last Thursday has to do with the Clownhouse, therefore has to do with freakbikes. All this in "America's Friendliest Bike City" with "Platinum Status".
Our harassment is nothing new, and the latest Police stunt was pure BS, but let's remember what Zoobomb is...email me if you want to know what I'm getting at.
As you can see I am not the one who should write this letter. _________________ DROPOUT Bike Club - Portland |
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| felix Site Admin
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Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 2:26 pm Post subject: |
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The police started to show up at Last Thursday after the dance party in the street, it really had nothing to do with the clown house.
felix |
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| SAGe
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Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 3:00 pm Post subject: |
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Ive got a plan for action but I dont want to talk about it online. We will discuss on the hill, it will take place on sunday. All I will say is that it will totally baffle the cops. _________________ 42. |
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| joshuadallman
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Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 3:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | All I will say is that it will totally baffle the cops. |
like that's hard! put an acura logo on your bike and the cops will go "wow look at that small car!" but they'll leave you alone cuz it's not a bike which is all they're targeting. |
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| solid gold
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Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 11:17 am Post subject: |
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yeah, blackouts are effective for certain things, but to get the police off our backs, we need the public rallying behind us. police rely on no one seeing there bad deeds, when they're exposed to the light, they tend to react as more as they should, you know AS PUBLIC SERVANTS, SERVING AND PROTECTING THE CITIZENS. _________________ Pull your own weight in '08. |
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| SAGe
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Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 11:43 am Post subject: |
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The truth of the matter is "To Serve and Protect" means "To serve 'the man' " and "Protect ourselves" _________________ 42. |
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| half pint
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Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 10:38 am Post subject: |
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| felix wrote: | The police started to show up at Last Thursday after the dance party in the street, it really had nothing to do with the clown house.
felix |
while that might be true, they certainly have been sticking around the clownhouse, more than anywhere else. |
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| solid gold
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Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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also, PDOT's director's email is
director@pdxtrans.org _________________ Pull your own weight in '08. |
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| butterbits
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 12:23 am Post subject: |
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| joshuadallman wrote: | but shouldn't this be part of team blackout?
we're telling them our strategy here publically instead of through private email
(not hatin', just sayin') |
There's been lots of media blackout talk lately, and while i think it's not a bad idea to keep some stuff under wraps, i think solid's list above is fine on the forum. It's thought-out, calm, and focused. Think of it kinda like a press release (not that it's actually a press release, but you know what i mean).
Also, others might want to chime in with their additions to solid's media points (and maybe add to #6, the one about spelling, grammar, rants, audience, that and I'm looking at you Solid Gold, TYPING IN ALL CAPS IS YELLING and not appropriate for well-reasoned responses to the media).
In terms of what to post publicly/keep transparent and what to keep under wraps:
As always, common sense is good. If you don't want it broadcast beyond the forum or possibly end up in the media, don't write it, especially about the subjects that the media has already picked up on. We've got the spotlight on us right now, so chill.
I like hearing what y'all have to say and i think we have a pretty healthy forum, but a bit of savvy is called for during this blitz. Which is why this thread was created in the first place. If you have something to say, and you're not sure whether you should/shouldn't say it online, talk about it on the hill, send a private email, and/or talk it over with team diplomacy. |
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| WARCHILD
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 7:10 am Post subject: |
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oh snap, they're on it already, AND they broke the super impossible "bike riders on sunday" code. Dammit, who told them it was zoobomb?!
http://blogtown.portlandmercury.com/2007/08/cops_targeting_zoobomb.php _________________ why kills elfants and kitt katts, eh? you fukkers, if I teh PABLO sees you wit bums at zoo to kill anmils,
i runs yuo down in my chevy. I manly man, you puss puss, fukkers, you.
Calendar of zoobomb events:
http://tinyurl.com/33qcxu |
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| SkidMark
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 10:16 am Post subject: |
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Either some of you have selective memory or failing memory, or maybe you just weren't there. We have ALWAYS had a certain level of "harassment". Yeah, the fuzz should have bigger fish to fry.
Think about it, what goes on, on our Sunday night. To say anymore violates the 4th Amendment. _________________ DROPOUT Bike Club - Portland |
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| tern.
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 10:31 am Post subject: |
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Marcoos, are throwing roof tiles on this thread [laugs]?
Hey, you are a tent-bombing male calligula party goer, according to black panty annie...or do I have the wrong Marcoos? _________________ paperclips...unbent. |
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| SkidMark
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 11:15 am Post subject: |
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I'm from San Diego,bitch. You can't talk shit to me like some Portlander. _________________ DROPOUT Bike Club - Portland |
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| tern.
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 11:48 am Post subject: |
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bums butts bummer. Hey sorry to hear that. San Diego....why don't you move up to LA [laughs]? And by the way, I adore the Portlanders that I know. So there Biatch!! Yeoww! _________________ paperclips...unbent. |
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| SkidMark
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 11:57 am Post subject: |
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Because LA is the armpit of the Universe. I live near Portland now. _________________ DROPOUT Bike Club - Portland |
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| tern.
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 12:02 pm Post subject: |
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unless of course, youre really a female.....
Well then, the 'Biatch'doesn't apply.
I reserve that word for people that I know--always male....
and given the number of posts you've done (just saw), you are probably form PDX.
Liar.
Anyways back the shit you-allofs were talking about....
Don't mnd me, (Biatch)! _________________ paperclips...unbent. |
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| tern.
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 12:07 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, what you speak of is true, young Marcoos Baggins. Yes. It RINGS of truth.
But, the fact is, I really love it here in LA.
(and I love Portland, too.)
So, good on ya, bo. _________________ paperclips...unbent. |
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| SkidMark
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 12:12 pm Post subject: |
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I am just being realistic. _________________ DROPOUT Bike Club - Portland |
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| tern.
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 12:17 pm Post subject: |
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oh shit....I'm still mucking up this thread, but...
ALL of Southern CA is a tenuous proposition, at this point.
Environment and sustainability...yeah.
Well, I'll just do what you do,
I grew up in AK.
I am bringing beer up, just for you. _________________ paperclips...unbent. |
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| tern.
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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Me and my big mouth, sheesh! _________________ paperclips...unbent. |
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| solid gold
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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 1:10 pm Post subject: |
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if we're talking about breaking the law, theres a place where drunk drivers congregate every night, IT'S CALLED THE BARS!! yet, no stings outside of bars to catch drunk drivers? yea selective enforcement! my argument is not about legality, my argument is about wasted police resources.
felix, can you please delete this stupid bitch fight between skidmark and this other guy? or repost it maybe under "Bitch Fight"? let's stay on topic. _________________ Pull your own weight in '08. |
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| neptunecity
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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 2:12 pm Post subject: |
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The PoPo are much happier when people have their fun indoors rather than outdoors, and the restaurant and bar owners association no doubt has a very large slush fund that they use to keep the PoPo from overly scrutinizing their business or their patrons. ZooBomb in essence is being punished for providing free fun outdoors in public spaces. _________________ 20" x 45 MPH, baby! |
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| neptunecity
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Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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fuck all the haters at BikePortland, team diplomacy rocks! thank you one and all. _________________ 20" x 45 MPH, baby! |
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| Bumble The Boy Wonder
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Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 1:09 am Post subject: |
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Do you know what was said there? _________________ I'm a broke-ass with a broke ass. |
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| Franz
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Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 1:29 am Post subject: |
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Tern, SKIDMARCUS lives in LA by way of Dallas. SKiDmark presumably lives in Portland by way of San Diego.
Sounds like a good idea to me, I wouldn't worry about publishing plans like this. Nothing covert or illegal about it. |
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